Did the New York Knicks and New York / New Jersey / Brooklyn Nets actually have real opportunities to build a rivalry throughout the years?

Digging into the massive disparity in historic clout is one thing, but weighing the two teams’ closer-than-expected basketball products—(their all-time winning ratios are only apart by about five percent, for example)—proves that fandom runs deep.

In this 12th episode of TBW’s Basketball by Association podcast, Arky Shea and Joel C. Cordes are joined by Ray LeBov. Along the way, they take side trips to Dr. J’s NBA/ABA merger-forced sale from the Nets and Patrick Ewing’s “Frozen Envelope” arrival.

The guys also then discuss what lies ahead for a Nets team with suddenly high expectations and a Knicks franchise perpetually stuck in an unpopular, unsuccessful situation. But will any of that even matter when it comes to longterm loyalties?

Finally, Ray also details how and why he created the NBA’s gold standard for content curation: BasketballIntelligence.net.

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